Priceless. read all of it make sure you note my comment too. 21:12 Jun 02 2013
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Thank you!
13:16:35 - Jun 02 2013
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I want to take this time, to Thank all of you, who have/has supported me, in regards to the "EvilSeductress/TeeTee" situation. Most of you have said, admins most likely won't do anything about this issue, because it is viewed as a 'Personal Dispute'. Be that as it may, it is also a 'Personal Dispute' with all of you who have/has also been Cyber Bullied by this user. The petition I am holding isn't just for my encounter with this user, its for all of you as well. I know the likely chance of anything being done about it is slim, and they will tell me to "Block" this user and 'Ignore' it. I have done just that, yet last night, when was broadcasting my cam, I was chatting with a few friends, when (Even though I blocked "EvilSeductress/TeeTee") guess who came into my broadcast...... 'EvilSeductress'. I have "Ignored and "Blocked" this user, yet this user won't leave me alone. So instead of starting a fight with this user, I simply ended my broadcast.
I know I speak for not only myself, but for all the other's that have been "Cyber Bullied", that if we keep trying, if we keep our voices heard, if we make a big enough 'Roar' about this issue, or any issue involving 'Cyber Bullying', at least it might get back to this user, and maybe next time this user will 'Think' of others before saying something, or doing something that might hurt someone.
Almost "200" user's have seen my 'Petition', I am going to do everything it takes, to not only keep my Petition alive, but to get even more people to view it, so they can be made aware, of not just "EvilSeductress/TeeTee", but of any 'CyberBully'!
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imagesinwords
13:54:54
Jun 02 2013
In case you didn't know, I am "The Hand" on Vampire Rave. In Cancer's own words, "in the absence of The Prince, The Hand is The Prince." I'll be sure to let Cancer know I told you how things worked here, and you chose to keep this going. It's not against ToS to create a petition, but it's still useless, and I did reiterate the way we work here. You can choose to ignore me, I'll just let Cancer know that I did my part and this is how it went.
xSingianx
14:08:56
Jun 02 2013
I don't mean disrespect, but I think we all have our right to speak out against those that take the time to continue to bother and harass someone even though they are ignored and blocked. I mean Cyber bullying can go outside of the computer I have had it happen to me, and yes from people ON HERE.
See that's the thing, even though they don't go against TOS, we ignore them and what not, but what happens? they take it further is what they do, they will drive people up the wall and what not, so from what I see she's not doing anything wrong she' just voicing. I see no harm in what she is doing, and yet she's getting told on?
That just shows that the admins don't care, and well I've never gone against the admins and don't tend to, but like EVERYONE else and yes the admins I am allowed to voice what we think is wrong..so it seems as though it's in the wrong for her to voice what she is saying..unless Im reading that wrong, but I tend to be a good reader.
NellMorgan
14:17:22
Jun 02 2013
A profile affiliated with said cyberbully called MsAntichrist made an attempt to claim that she was the author of Whitby After Dark and even branded me as a lier in her journal. I then post the links refered to my book, mentioning it as far back as 2010. Then saw that MsAntiChrist had nothing to say on the issue and deleted her journal that claimed herself as the author of Whitby After Dark (as it is by Stella Coulson which is me). This was a highly illegal act she committed against me. It wasn't just used, she claimed that I was a fraud and I notice that her CM the said cyberbully has nothing to say on the matter.
imagesinwords
14:18:20
Jun 02 2013
There's no harm in ignoring admins? Interesting.
Her opinion was voiced. I explained how things work. It was ignored and another entry was made to say it would carry on anyway. Good luck with that.
Tell me... Why would regular members be treated better than me or Cancer himself? We can suspend people because they bug us. I couldn't suspend a member that called my 13 year old a fag in is honor log. Why in the world do you think Cancer will treat random members better than a site admin that devotes as much to this place as I do, or even himself? He shrugs people off, he blocks people- and he's going to treat this situation as a special case, more than his own?
Admins don't get to make things up along the way and suspend people at will because we can, beyond popular belief. You can choose to make up your own reality, but that doesn't make reality any less true.
Avangelina
14:23:44
Jun 02 2013
In your comment, you make it seem like I am doing something wrong. Whats wrong here is the fact that no one is doing anything about 'Cyber Bullies'. I have done what any 'admin' would ask me to do, I 'Blocked' this user, and I am 'Ignoring' this user as well, yet she is the one who won't leave me alone. This user is/ has done this to many other user's, yet it seems like I am the one who is in trouble. You may turn a blind eye to it, but I won't and more and more user's won't either. Its not a 'Crime' to make other user's aware of what this user has done, or any other 'Cyber Bully'.
imagesinwords
14:26:45
Jun 02 2013
You are asking to be treated better than admins and even Cancer. There is something skewed with that. Absolutely. I've had teetee blocked myself several times. I wasn't able to just suspend her because I didn't like her.
So don't try and spin this as if I am on her side. I am on the side of common sense and site terms of service. I explain it, I'm ignored. So have fun with all this petition energy that will lead to you being ignored too.
xSingianx
14:30:03
Jun 02 2013
First of all, I didn't say anything about ignoring admins, maybe you need to re-read what I said, and second she's not asking to be better then you or cancer. what she's saying and I don't think you are getting this.
Cyber bullies will take it past the computer, they have done it a lot already, but yet you don't seem to see that, but I don't think you have had that happen to you. But the thing is she's just voicing and it seems like no one likes the truth, that's what I am seeing.
It's sad that people can't see the truth or don't want to, but it's another to twist peoples words and what not, I know you are the top notch on this site and that is fine, but don't turn our words around a though we are trying to start something when in fact we are voicing and posting what is happening and what has happened.
imagesinwords
14:41:17
Jun 02 2013
I think it's sad people can't read what I am saying either. I didn't say you said 'ignoring', but that's what's happening with this.
And it's hypocritical to say you all are being basically ignored by admins and what admins are saying about it is truly ignored.
I wouldn't ever want to be a part of a site where members could actually start a petition to boot people and be successful with it. Trust that so many of you would also be gone in a heartbeat.
Vampire Rave's rules protect everyone. And admins don't get involved in personal disputes- that's what this is. Cancer has built in features to handle these things on your own (block)- then you must tap into your own abilities of being able to ignore them and not feed into drama by not being able to stop talking about them. Teetee has WON a million times over with all this spent energy.
xSingianx
14:46:26
Jun 02 2013
No no, you are not being ignored, see this is what I am talking about, if this what you call a person problem then why did you step in? I mean is it against TOS to start something like this?
what about the PEDO's that run on this site and harass the younger kids? What about that? so the way I see it, things aren't just right on here, and all she did was speak her mind and thought and if people want to sit there and voice about it, then don't butt in.
as for the whole blocking thing, yeah ok then take away the ability to buy and buy more profiles, and keep them from using other profiles to stomp on someone, if it's that easy to type out IGNORE them, then it's easy to make another profile to cause more problems.
Most haven't been bullied, that's true but yet for some reason when it goes past the computer you guys just throw your hands up and go "oh well"
and on another note..this isn't something personal, this is something everyone almost everyone has gone through with this person...so it's not a personal thing.
imagesinwords
14:52:35
Jun 02 2013
Well, if you read what I said when I first commented... it was to explain that we don't suspend members based on petitions. But of course, we see how well that went over. If what I have to share is chopped liver and means zip- then you'll all understand the frustration on my part.
It doesn't work this way, submit your petition all you want- but don't be surprised of you either don't get an answer at all- or get the exact same one I gave.
xSingianx
14:58:17
Jun 02 2013
All I have to say is that it's a one sided story that's all, there is no point voicing there is no point in trying to talk to others. She just wanted to get out there about this person and yet it's blown up into something else, I just find it odd if you didn't want to get into the middle of it, then why did you butt in? On that note I'm dropping the subject and going about my own thing.
imagesinwords
15:07:22
Jun 02 2013
Why did I butt in? LOL! I'm here to explain rules as an admin. I never asked any details as about the dispute or took sides. I even said that I myself have had issues with teetee and what I did: blocked her. Regular members have the same options I do in that regard. Teetee left me alone after a while and I removed the block. It is what happens when people get ignored, truly.
VRsGod
16:05:04
Jun 02 2013
imagestheredheadedslut is a liar! I have proof that when people attack them or their family Cancer does step in he told me if I did it again he would suspend me. Yes I call the cunts offspring a fag. if any of you care to note why i did it was to prove a fucking point.
tell everyone what my brother inlove did that was against tos. and dont say it was having multiple accounts because that is a fucking lie you you said so yourself when frustrated he gave out his ip address as proof you were lying. he is a fucking child and you targeted him and your fucking butt buddies helped you suspended him for disagreeing with your entry. because of his friendslist. i might add that my brother is underaged. she then gave the excuse that she can suspend any profile for any reason if she wants to because it said so in the tos. why not fucking do it to someone that deserves it instead of a little boy that you and your friends attacked after the fact. and shut the fuck up lullabybitch you are a troll too. you should keep your fat aussie ass quiet you have no room to talk after calling people trannies just because they were my friend. you homophobic piece of shit.
i called imagestheslut's kid a fag to prove a point that they do only step in when it effects them. so lick admin ass and you can troll the whole site. notice how she said she HAD teetee blocked. what happened you bond with her over the fact that ana called you out for being a liar and a two faced cunt?
I am a troll I admit it but I am only trolling people that have been doing it to others on this site isn't that right snowflake aka imagesinwords. going by anonymously to peoples honor and leaving nasty comments then pretending to be their friends to their face with your admin profile. you are a low piece of shit.
last lets not forget that my profile ThePunisher has been stolen from me by the admins because vestige violated tos to obtain my personal information. he did it by embedding a code in a message to me. and that does violate tos. so what happened my password is stripped and i cant get on my profile anymore. want to know something else i reset the thing 5 times and let my brother try to sign in and nope. it's locked but i didnt violate any tos i asked him to do his job and chastise the guy who did.
by the way fag is defined by southpark bitches.
i only came here to prove a point. and every step of the way the admins proved me right. you attacked my brother for having the wrong friends and not agreeing with you and you then had cancer threaten to suspend me for retaliating in kind. you are nothing but a lying cunt.
teetee has been allowed to continue her bullying that has effected people's real lives for far too long she is a predator like a pedophile or a rapist because that is what she does she makes people feel as violated as if they were raped. you can delete her for her actions you can delete anyone for any reason. harassment is defined in your terms of service. her clearly goes above and beyond.
and fyi i had to use a proxy to access this account because the admins did ban me. so there is another lie. do you get up in the morning and decide who the fuck's truth am i going to piss on today?
sorry avangelina for the rant but that bitch's comment about how she doesnt play favorite just fucking got to me. not to mention. she put up another lie in her journal using me as an example. i just wanted to be clear she did have me ip banned and they did take away one of my premium profile's without suspending it so she needs to shut her lying face.
i bet they suspend me now. maybe not though because it would just prove my point even further. bet i will be here making all the trolls lives miserable. lol
"EvilSeductress/TeeTee" Petition
18:57:21 - Jun 01 2013
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I am asking anyone, who has/is currently or previously been Cyber Bullied by a user, named "EvilSeductress/TeeTee" to sign this petition. This petition, is to, but not limited to, have "EvilSeductress/TeeTee"s accounts be suspended, due to, Miss use of her accounts, and Cyber Bullying. I for one, (As I am sure some of you have read my latest 'Personal' entry about my encounter with this user) have been Cyber Bullied by this user, in different ways. (If you would like to hear more about my incident with "EvilSeductress/TeeTee", then please refer to my journal entry, in 'Personal' Titled 'Vote'). This Petition isn't just for my encounter with this specific user. Its for all of you, that have come forward to me and shared your experiences that you have had with this user as well. What happened to me is nothing, compared to what some of you have told me.
I am not doing this for my own personal gain either. I simply want Cancer, to review this petition, and give her a fair punishment for what she has/is doing to user's on this site. I feel that Cyber Bullying should not be tolerated, and it seems no one has taken the proper steps to resolve this or any issue "EvilSeductress/TeeTee" has caused.
If you would like to sign this Petition, then please simple leave your name below. If you choose not to sign, at least you have been made aware to stay away from the user.
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Trouble
19:00:55
Jun 01 2013
As promised.
BlackenedxWings
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Trouble
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imagesinwords
19:18:02
Jun 01 2013
Account suspensions don't work like that. It's black and white- either you break site terms of service or you don't. As Cancer says- this site is not about singing Kumbaya. People are free to not like each other if they want. And we all have the choice to ignore each other.
imagesinwords
19:23:19
Jun 01 2013
And think about it- if it did work this way... Teetee could gather her friends and do the same thing to you and you'd be suspended.
Everyone should thank their lucky stars we don't work like this.
NellMorgan
20:05:31
Jun 01 2013
Here if you ever need to talk Avangelina. The only answer to this is not to give the bullies our power - like parasites they feed on our frailty, our weakness. They like to point out in my case ''Get meds'', ''Go cut yourself'' as a dig at my Bipolar and high functioning Autism spectrum nature (actually I do take meds, and I never hid that fact. I'm not ashamed to ask for the help I needed. I function better than most 'normal' people that like to mock 'freaks' like me. Trained in Media and on my 2nd novella), even my physical appearance, they called me homophobic names such as ''dy**'' as though that'd be something I'd be ashamed of. I'm sorry you are being victimized also. Just know that you are a strong girl who won't be bullied, victimized and harassed by people who really should take a hard look at their actions and the impact this with have on their own souls and karma. The path is their and you choose to walk a better more noble one. Be proud of who your are Avangelina, for the little I've seen, you seem a articulate strong girl.
Lullaby
20:44:21
Jun 01 2013
VampireFreaks gives the power to suspend regular members for up to three months, simply by giving bad ratings.
Images is right - Teetee would then just get all her "friends"*coughalternateprofilescough* to do the same to you.
NellMorgan
21:33:41
Jun 01 2013
Excellent point about the alternate profiles/personalities, Lullaby. Since I only have Nell and HK47 ( my 2nd which is shared with friends who visit me) I'd be outnumbered by other person(s) 20-30 profiles. I think this wonderful journal makes a point in itself by speaking up on a important issue. People can decide form themselves and see the example of language from all parties in terms of how they treat others. It's up to each of us to decide what is moral, right or just plain wrong.
LordFangor
22:05:00
Jun 01 2013
Teetee is a cunt. All of us on VR know that. Unfortunately, the way TOS are structured there really is nothing to be done.
However, I would suggest you use your journal to vent about an aging, sagging, Motel 6 night maid who oozes jealousy from her pores at much younger, and far, far more attractive women than she.
Just a thought after all there is nothing she can do about it. You have the right to use your journal in that matter according to the TOS. :)
xSingianx
06:53:48
Jun 02 2013
Free for thought right?
This is what I see, the only time and I do not mean any disrespect here, but the only time that something will be done is if one of the admin's were attacked. People most of the time on here don't take cyber bullying something major.
For the amount of years, and yes Money I have spent on this site, I would think there would be a bit more I guess better site to be able to relax on and what not. But the thing is, as long as the site is making money and what not, then nothing will be done.
Most do not take the cyber bullying real on here, cause if they did then they wouldn't allow Pedo's or those that cyber bully to come on here, but sense they are making their ends meat and what not they won't take the time to really take out the trash.
I know that's mean to say but that's the truth and what I see, if you attack an admin you will get suspended and quick no questions asked, but if you try to take out the cyber bullies on here then they will end up losing money cause half the time tit's the cyber bullies that pay for their accounts.
It's a shame that they won't do nothing about it, but yet when it comes to them (admins) they will take care of the problem ASAP, I know I might get into trouble for this comment, and if I do, then that just shows no one can handle the truth.
FatherDemon
07:24:53
Jun 02 2013
The only thing you're going to be told by any authority on this site is to ignore it. It's a shame that someone can get away with cyber bullying but in all actuality what can be done about it?
Nothing.
A cyber bully, troll or any other asshole over the net has nothing emotionally invested in what they're doing other than the entertainment they get from being an asshole. The sad truth is that you just have to ignore a cyber bully or troll. When they learn that they're pawing can't get the best of you, they'll move on or shrivel up and die.
A person's best bet to avoid this kind of mess is to cut off all venues of it entering their life.
miloshkeat
09:14:06
Jun 02 2013
count me in something needs to be done about this its not right how we all have to follow the the rules and teetee gets away with breaking the rules
BlackenedxWings
09:27:08
Jun 02 2013
And, here's that thing about account suspensions though.
We can talk about the evil deeds of any member here but in the end it's not about what we can scream injustice about.
In the end, it's what we can prove.
People have screamed that others have created multiple free accounts in a manner that was not only against the spirit of the site ToS but in such a manner that the user's other accounts should be suspended for such an abuse of the multiple accounts rule. I should know a lot about that- my former account TheCharismaticEnigma was one of the few that was hit with the "mass-blocking" in order to keep the account in it's current coven, Purgatory. My opinion about the way it should be punished when some do this is to suspend every account the user created- even those who are within the spirit of the site ToS. But, I'm not one of those in charge. *shrugs*
Rating, blocking, offensive messages.... admins cannot get involved with this ending in a suspension for the reason that personal disputes do not fall in the category of ToS violation. Block, don't view profiles. That's what we're told. The site has over 21,000 registered accounts though some of us have more than 2. Everyone on here has their price to pay for the things we do, if and when she steps out of line she'll be no different.
VenusFire
11:56:19
Jun 02 2013
I support Avangelina's ideas. I do understand Images and the violation of TOS. However, teetee also uses cyber bullying to steal profiles from people. (Don't make me name anyone because I can!) I was a member of a Coven on my alternate profile and the CM's profile was stolen and the Coven disbanded. There wasn't anything I could do about it either. Luckily, I have enough friends on here that I got my profile back. My CM however, never got her profile back and she is still fighting for that. Also, I know other people who have been bullied by her and she threatened to use all of her 60 something profiles to put them in a place where they would go under sire and lose their Covens. That to me is bullshit. I've been a member here for 5 years and there have been some nasty people here but this takes the cake.
SupremeMaster
14:00:25
Jun 02 2013
Something could be done for the Admins to take notice of what the 'common people' has raised their voices about. If most of us simply 'self deletes'... Moves onto another website and/or to do something else irl. But who WOULD self delete 'just to' get this message *this Petition* heard? Hey! If most of us DID 'self delete' than ONLY the bullies and other idiots on this website will only have the members that stay, so the Admins would have to deal with them.
Vampirewitch39
14:46:22
Jun 02 2013
xSingianx- You mean someone other them me have paid for the liftimes I have on this site? Damn.. then I expect a credit on my credit card ASAP. And the check is in the mail I know for all the time and effort I give this site as an Admin. Thank god I can quiet my two jobs and just sit on my ass.
Glad you cleared that up for me.
Now- I liked the one about 'going to another site' or 'finding someplace else'. You know one site online that is as large/ active as this one and it not have trolls? I think not. World Wide Web- means all kinds of folks. And this little rebel move of yours is just making the attention seekers day. Good job! You have just added to the drama as they do journals about how you are doing this, stupid it is.
Block. Does anyone even know how to use it? And how to leave these 'trouble makers' as you call them, alone? Funny how out of the 20,000 members here only a hand full are going on and on about this? Why? Because others just move on, don't care what someone types on a screen.
You are that hurt by words- you might want to stay off the web.
And it is funny how it is the same members who complain about these attention seekers. Show you something about yourself, I think. Of course TeeTee could say the same about you- how you are attacking her.
Why it is said- Admins don't get into personal issue between members.
What we do is enforce the rules, few that they are. You want to report a rule broken then do so. You want to report TeeTee said this and that, then that is nothing we can do about it.
But good luck on this petition- go for it. Maybe Cancer will listen to you all. But then maybe he will just clean out ALL the trouble makers.
Em0d0LL
15:29:35
Jun 02 2013
If you need a friend I am here! I've been bullied by Teetee also so I know how you feel! I'll sign whatever u have! I am here if u need anything!
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ChaoticMistress
16:17 Jun 29 2013
wow this journal was interesting